Content-Type: text/plain INELKHAR-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 27 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files ["Sherry L. Nisly" To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980609162756.00911320@pop.skyenet.net> Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Are Online! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:59 PM 5/22/98 -0500, Tom Stevens wrote: >Through the courtesty of Ned Parcell, index files for the Elkhart County, >Indiana CRIMP project are now online at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inelkhar/CRIMP/crimp.htm Other than ordering the films from the LDS, which Goshen library says it can't do :( they seem not to know how, how is one supposed to look at the contents of these files? I asked about them at the County Courthouse, and they don't seem to have a clue. They said all their probate records are in storage, and that once a week or so they go pull things from them, but we cannot look for things ourselves. They also seemed pretty clueless about the files I was looking for. Any suggestions from someone who has dealt with these files and the Elkhart County Courthouse here in Goshen? I have some things I would like to see, and have had atleast 3 requests from others for lookups, but do not know how to proceed. Thanks, Sherry ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:05:35 -0500 From: "YVONNE E. SCHWARTZ" (by way of stevens@skyenet.net (Tom Stevens)) To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199806092205.RAA13214@skye1.skyenet.net> Subject: [INELKHAR-L] re: Bowman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sherry, you are right about lots of Bowmans still in the area. i talked to one last night to ask about her father. Bernice went to my church when i was young and used to play the piano for me when i sang special music. I also talked to another one who has done some history on the Michael Bowman family with photocopies of originals wills, court documents and the like. Many in the area are church of the brethren still and some are also following in the footsteps of ministry. i also had a Bowman in my class at school at fairfield too. plus some at the CH of the Brethren rallies, and some at the reunions i went to as a child. My Great grandmother was a Bowman. There are many buried next to Rock Run Church of the Brethren. C.r. 38 east of the church used to be referred to as Bowman row. there are 26 bowmans listed in the Goshen telephone directory., some in New Paris, and millersburg. ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:05:37 -0500 From: "YVONNE E. SCHWARTZ" (by way of stevens@skyenet.net (Tom Stevens)) To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199806092205.RAA13224@skye1.skyenet.net> Subject: [INELKHAR-L] huffman trucks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don, you might want to try S. ray Miller ANtique Auto Museum 2130 middlebury st. elkhart, in 219-522-0539 i do not know if they have any but they are local and they have antique vehicles yvonne ps maybe the Elkhart chamber of commerce would have information? 418 s. main st elkhart in 219-293-1531 ______________________________ X-Message: #4 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:50:35 -0400 From: wknotts@cleveland.dfas.mil (WILLIAM KNOTTS) To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001EE794.1783@cleveland.dfas.mil> Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] re: Bowman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hi, could you please help me contact the person that has compiled the Michael BOWMAN history?? I have as a descendant of John J. Bowman, Sr, his grandson Michael BOWMAN, b. Apr 4, 1845 in VA (now WV), m. Nov 24, 1865 in WV to Sarah Jane Shanabarger, she d. 1910, IN. He married second to Marjorie Garber. This Michael was the eighth child of Daniel and Mary (Magdalene) Bowman. Daniel was the third son of the John J. Bowman, SR I mention above. Also, who was your greatgrand mother Bowman? I would like to learn more about you grandmother and Michael Bowman. Thanks in advance, Bill Knotts, email: wknotts@cleveland.dfas.mil ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [INELKHAR-L] re: Bowman Author: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com at internet1 Date: 6/9/98 5:05 PM Sherry, you are right about lots of Bowmans still in the area. i talked to one last night to ask about her father. Bernice went to my church when i was young and used to play the piano for me when i sang special music. I also talked to another one who has done some history on the Michael Bowman family with photocopies of originals wills, court documents and the like. Many in the area are church of the brethren still and some are also following in the footsteps of ministry. i also had a Bowman in my class at school at fairfield too. plus some at the CH of the Brethren rallies, and some at the reunions i went to as a child. My Great grandmother was a Bowman. There are many buried next to Rock Run Church of the Brethren. C.r. 38 east of the church used to be referred to as Bowman row. there are 26 bowmans listed in the Goshen telephone directory., some in New Paris, and millersburg. ______________________________ X-Message: #5 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:48:52 -0400 From: Linda Allred Cooper To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <199806101149_MC2-3FCC-DD9A@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Are Online! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sherry: Is there a LDS church nearby? From what I have experienced, every Mormon church has a library with access to those records. Anyone can use the library - you don't have to be LDS and they won't try to "recruit" you to join the church while you're there. I use the one near my house quite often with great success! Many of these church libraries keep their own copies of certain files and all of them can borrow files from the FHC in Salt Lake City. Many of them will also let you take files home on a "lending program" if you have a computer. Linda ______________________________ X-Message: #6 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:14:08 -0400 From: wknotts@cleveland.dfas.mil (WILLIAM KNOTTS) To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001F08D2.1783@cleveland.dfas.mil> Subject: Re[2]: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Are Online! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part The list of Indiana Family History Centers, (LDS) are at this URL: http://www.lib.byu.edu/~uvrfhc/indiana.html Here are the centers: Bloomington; Columbus; Evansville; Ft. Wayne; Indianapolis; Kokomo; Muncie; New Albany; Noblesville; South Bend; Terra Haute, and West Lafaytte. Addresses and phone numbers can be found at the above URL. Bill ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Are Online! Author: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com at internet1 Date: 6/10/98 11:48 AM Hi Sherry: Is there a LDS church nearby? From what I have experienced, every Mormon church has a library with access to those records. Anyone can use the library - you don't have to be LDS and they won't try to "recruit" you to join the church while you're there. I use the one near my house quite often with great success! Many of these church libraries keep their own copies of certain files and all of them can borrow files from the FHC in Salt Lake City. Many of them will also let you take files home on a "lending program" if you have a computer. Linda ==== INELKHAR Mailing List ==== Past issues of INELKHART-D are now archived at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inelkhar/elkhlst.htm . ______________________________ X-Message: #7 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:45:11 -0400 From: wknotts@cleveland.dfas.mil (WILLIAM KNOTTS) To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001F0BF2.1783@cleveland.dfas.mil> Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] bowman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Yvonne, the Mathias you mention below, was he born Aug 6, 1849? If so, he may be a son of John J. Bowman, JR.. Bill ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [INELKHAR-L] bowman Author: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com at internet1 Date: 6/7/98 7:55 AM This is my family too and am just now in the process of typing the Bowman clan into my computer file so it is not yet complete. i have conflicting information on buriel. one at rock run and on Union Cemetary in Clinton Township, Elkhart County,IN This is my home church and i have taken some pictures of head stones there but i seemed to have missed his. i will be going back and take more of the ones i missed that day. i am sending you some bowmans from that cemetery. Mathias J, wife Hannah, Grover C. and wife Laura, J. Edward and wife Alice, Elmer H and wife Viola . i have yet to connect them but maybe you can? i have a small type written manuscript by Barbara Jewett from 1984 i am willing to copy and mail" Descendants of John Bowman of PA" These papers include information from 1850 somerset county census, transcriptions of legal documents,(photocopy of originals), picture of grave stone, photocopy of family bible,(Daniel's),photocopy of Michaels muster in and muster out papers, photo copy of peter's metals from civil war photocopy of Michael and Sarahs bible, picture of michael,hesta,sara and others ( i have original of this photo too but not all the names)pictures of will bowman, michael bowman, and billy shanabarger and george bowman, information on shanagarger family who maried in such as wills etc. there is also a section on memories of grandpa grandma bowman by their grandchildren ( my Great aunts and Great Uncles) copy of Bowman reunion records too. alsong with a large goup photo from one of the reunions set at pleasant valley ept 3 1917. it has 86 pages. be happy to copy so you can pick what you want to keep. please also find a copy of a file i have from the interenet but i dont remember where. by Don Norman Yvonne E. Schwartz i show 14 children one died infancy or stillborn though. ______________________________ X-Message: #8 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:06:26 -0400 From: "Sherry L. Nisly" To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980610120626.00930100@pop.skyenet.net> Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:48 AM 6/10/98 -0400, Linda Allred Cooper wrote: >Hi Sherry: > >Is there a LDS church nearby? Sort of, it is about an hour away. And I knew I could go there to look at them, but really didn't want to drive to South Bend everytime some one wants something :( So that really isn't a good answer for me, I guess. (Unless it turns out to be the ONLY answer :) I just felt certain that there should be some way to look at the files here at the courthouse where the films were taken. For that matter, there is a whole cabinet full of films, but I don't know what they are nor how to use their reader which is setting there. (Obviously they dont either) In the cabinet there are films of probate records, marriage records, etc, dating back to dates of the records I want to look at, but don't know if I can just pull them out of the drawer, plug in the reader and look at them or not? I would hate to tick the clerk's office personel off, for myself and other genealogists, so that they wouldn't let us look at things. So am hesitant to just use them, unless someone tells me that it has been done before, and that I was just there on a day when no one was working that had a clue. Sherry ______________________________ X-Message: #9 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:52:40 -0400 From: wknotts@cleveland.dfas.mil (WILLIAM KNOTTS) To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001F1270.1783@cleveland.dfas.mil> Subject: Re[2]: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part In my view, they are public records. If they are where you can touch them, you have access to them. After all if they did not want the public to look at them they would have them in a locked safe. The worst thing that could happen is the sheriff takes you away. ha Bill ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Author: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com at internet1 Date: 6/10/98 12:06 PM At 11:48 AM 6/10/98 -0400, Linda Allred Cooper wrote: >Hi Sherry: > >Is there a LDS church nearby? Sort of, it is about an hour away. And I knew I could go there to look at them, but really didn't want to drive to South Bend everytime some one wants something :( So that really isn't a good answer for me, I guess. (Unless it turns out to be the ONLY answer :) I just felt certain that there should be some way to look at the files here at the courthouse where the films were taken. For that matter, there is a whole cabinet full of films, but I don't know what they are nor how to use their reader which is setting there. (Obviously they dont either) In the cabinet there are films of probate records, marriage records, etc, dating back to dates of the records I want to look at, but don't know if I can just pull them out of the drawer, plug in the reader and look at them or not? I would hate to tick the clerk's office personel off, for myself and other genealogists, so that they wouldn't let us look at things. So am hesitant to just use them, unless someone tells me that it has been done before, and that I was just there on a day when no one was working that had a clue. Sherry ______________________________ X-Message: #10 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:18:15 -0400 From: Linda Allred Cooper To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <199806101518_MC2-3FD2-2D97@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [INELKHAR-L] CRIMP Index Files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sherry: Connie has helped me in the past and seems to know her way around libraries and files. Maybe she'll read these messages and respond. Perhaps ya'll could plan to meet somewhere and she could "walk you thru" the use of the machines or something. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help! Linda